Fourth post in a series based on an interview with the California State Director of Organizing for America (OFA-CA).
I get an email alert every morning with a summary of links, reports, and discussions of a group of highly committed progressives active in electoral politics. These messages, during several months as health care reform legislation became bogged down and watered down, were often critical of OFA. I mention this criticism from the left to Mary Jane Stevenson.
MJS: It’s okay though. I mean, it’s good for us to be second-guessed. It keeps us on our toes. But sometimes people make a sport of second-guessing OFA. And eventually you have to keep your focus on your work. We’re too busy working on stuff to get into that whole brawl.
Later I return to the topic of the daily email messages and the discontent that had been evident for several months, marveling that Ms. Stevenson seems above the fray.
MJS: They’re not OFA. … I had to just remove myself from those groups, because I can’t – if I’m in the fray, I don’t have time to do the work.
I persist, reading her the first lines of a number of critical posts – mostly from December 2009, when the Senate still hadn’t passed the bill and many Democrats (especially activists committed to health care reform) were demoralized and disheartened by the whole spectacle of securing the votes of 60 Senators just to bring the legislation to the floor. Some comments suggested that (because of the compromises) it might be better to defeat the bill at that stage.
MJS: I know. I know. You know, I really think it’s okay. … I can’t let that kind of stuff get to me because there’s all sorts of ways that you move – that you have a movement. Right?
PG: Yes.
MJS: Some of us have to be on the inside. And I’m sort of on the inside, because we’re working with the President. And then some have to be on the outside – pushing, you know, pushing the President’s agenda further to the left.
And you know, they did. And people pushed Dianne Feinstein further to the left and she accepted the public option and that was great. And I feel like there’s room for all of us. But when it comes down to it, you know, supporting getting 32 million insured, over doing nothing – that actually turned out to be the agenda of almost all of the Democratic or progressive groups in the end.
I think they really thought and threatened to kill the bill and did all that stuff, up until – and even Congresspeople did. In California, even some of our Congressional members did. But when push came to shove and it was time to vote for reform or no reform, I think everybody jumped on – most people who are affiliated with the Democratic agenda – whether they consider themselves more progressive than the President or not, you know, got on board with reform over no reform.
… That’s what makes me happy at the end of the day. And all this sort of bickering in between – you know, if you’re in my position, you do just have to … focus and do the work that you know that – You know, I can only control so much. And I just have to focus on the work that I can control. And I can’t control all of that other bickering on the outside.
PG: Uh-huh.
MJS: But you know all of that, I call it bickering, all of that … conversation is possibly moving people further to the left. And that’s okay.
And once – if there’s somebody who has an agenda that’s further to the left of the President, they should continue to push the President on that agenda. And if that becomes the President’s agenda, then it’s going to be my job to support that agenda. Because I support the President’s agenda.
PG: Okay… my guess is, most of OFA-California volunteers – the ones who are most active – are further left than the members of the U.S. Congress.
MSJ: Yeah. Well, you know, it’s hard to be an activist and then, sort of, become a part of the governing body.
PG: Right.
MSJ: You know, historically, those two things haven’t meshed all that well. And that’s why OFA is so exciting. Because it’s allowing that to happen. In a way that at first might take people out of their comfort zones. But so far has been very successful. I think.
PG: … I’m just going to assume that you’re probably to the left of the typical Congressman or Senator. You haven’t been uncomfortable with that because you’re pragmatic enough to realize, ‘Hey, we’re just going to do what we can and make the best deal possible. I’m going to try to make it work.’
MSJ: … I made a decision that I worked so hard to get this President elected, that I’m not going to let my work stop there. And I’m going to work hard to do what I can do, you know, in my limited ability to help make the change that voted for and worked so hard for actually happen. And I feel like, in this position that I’m in, I can do that a little bit.
PG: Uh-huh.
MSJ: And if I can do that a little bit and someone else next to me can do that a little bit, you know, again: This is what change looks like. It’s just a little at a time: a little here and a little there. Then I feel like, you know – I feel good at the end of the day.
[May 6 update: I revised my introductory comments to make this post consistent with an established protocol of which I had been unaware. None of Ms. Stevenson's responses (or my comments during the interview) have been changed.]
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