Comments on: Three Strikes – A Mighty Grassroots Group Goes Down Swinging http://www.laphilanthropywatch.com/2010/three-strikes-%e2%80%93-a-mighty-grassroots-group-goes-down-swinging/ A focus on the philanthropic community and nonprofit sector of Los Angeles Sun, 11 Jul 2010 05:32:48 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: pgolio http://www.laphilanthropywatch.com/2010/three-strikes-%e2%80%93-a-mighty-grassroots-group-goes-down-swinging/comment-page-1/#comment-514 pgolio Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:17:49 +0000 http://www.laphilanthropywatch.com/?p=5078#comment-514 I completely agree with your first comment. My discussion in Post #3, 'Mickey Mouse Registers to Vote (as a Democrat),' relies on the distinction you make. I referred to 'voter fraud,' rather than 'voter-registration fraud,' because that is almost always how the issue was discussed in the press and by the McCain campaign. (As a regular reader of Talking Points Memo, I am well-aware of the U.S. Attorney scandal. I even found a quote by David Iglesias for the Mickey Mouse post, but I cut it out on my final edit. Here's the link: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/iglesias_im_astounded_by_dojs.php ) You're obviously well-informed about ACORN. After reading your second comment, I did a quick web search and discovered that you're right: ACORN International changed its name (at ACORN's behest) to Community Organizations International and no longer has a relationship with ACORN. I appreciate your setting me straight. I completely agree with your first comment. My discussion in Post #3, ‘Mickey Mouse Registers to Vote (as a Democrat),’ relies on the distinction you make. I referred to ‘voter fraud,’ rather than ‘voter-registration fraud,’ because that is almost always how the issue was discussed in the press and by the McCain campaign. (As a regular reader of Talking Points Memo, I am well-aware of the U.S. Attorney scandal. I even found a quote by David Iglesias for the Mickey Mouse post, but I cut it out on my final edit. Here’s the link: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/iglesias_im_astounded_by_dojs.php )

You’re obviously well-informed about ACORN. After reading your second comment, I did a quick web search and discovered that you’re right: ACORN International changed its name (at ACORN’s behest) to Community Organizations International and no longer has a relationship with ACORN.

I appreciate your setting me straight.

]]> By: Nathan HJ http://www.laphilanthropywatch.com/2010/three-strikes-%e2%80%93-a-mighty-grassroots-group-goes-down-swinging/comment-page-1/#comment-510 Nathan HJ Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:05:56 +0000 http://www.laphilanthropywatch.com/?p=5078#comment-510 There are a number of inaccuracies in this posting. First, the "three strikes" includes persistent allegations of voter registration fraud, which is substantially different from voter fraud in several key areas. Also, it should be noted that those accusations stem from cards turned in by ACORN already marked as suspicious, since they were flagged by ACORN's quality control system. The accusations of registration fraud were politically motivated and they form the roots of the US Attorney scandal. David Iglesias himself says that he was fired for not trumping up charges against ACORN's New Mexico voter registration effort after the 2004 election. Second, Wade Rathke is the Chief Organizer of Community Organizations International, which was formerly ACORN International, but ACORN severed all ties with AI with the firing of Mr. Rathke and forced them to change their name so there was explicit recognition of the lack of ties between the organizations. So it is not accurate to imply that either Rathke brother has anything to do with the existing ACORN organization. There are a number of inaccuracies in this posting.

First, the “three strikes” includes persistent allegations of voter registration fraud, which is substantially different from voter fraud in several key areas. Also, it should be noted that those accusations stem from cards turned in by ACORN already marked as suspicious, since they were flagged by ACORN’s quality control system. The accusations of registration fraud were politically motivated and they form the roots of the US Attorney scandal. David Iglesias himself says that he was fired for not trumping up charges against ACORN’s New Mexico voter registration effort after the 2004 election.

Second, Wade Rathke is the Chief Organizer of Community Organizations International, which was formerly ACORN International, but ACORN severed all ties with AI with the firing of Mr. Rathke and forced them to change their name so there was explicit recognition of the lack of ties between the organizations. So it is not accurate to imply that either Rathke brother has anything to do with the existing ACORN organization.

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